"...the great masses of the people in the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously and purposely evil...therefore, in view of the primitive simplicity of their minds they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one..." - Adolph Hitler
Don Clark's Big Lie About Roland Carnaby
I'll try to make this brief. Being modern Americans, both you and I have short attention spans. That's how stories like the following get memory holed. We don't pay attention.
On April 29, 2008, Roland Carnaby was shot down in the street by the Houston Police Department. The capital crime he committed was running from the cops after a traffic stop.
When stopped the first time, it's claimed that Carnaby produced ID identifying him as a CIA agent. The offficer was told by his superiors that the ID was fake. The officer was also told to find a reason to arrest Carnaby. This brings up question number one: if the ID was fake, why did the cops need to find a reason to arrest him? Impersonating a federal official is already a crime.
At this point Carnaby, a man with a stellar reputation (he was president of the Houston chapter of the Association of Intelligence Officers), drove away from the traffic stop and attempted to call his contacts in the Houston Police Department and the FBI. Having no luck with that, he kept driving while the cops chased him through Houston.
Apparently Carnaby's vehicle was disabled by the police in some manner or another or he just stopped. This point's a little unclear. What is clear is that the police were enraged and attempted to smash the front passenger window after the vehicle stopped. Carnaby was shot in the back while exiting the vehicle and then shot again in the chest by another officer. He was put in handcuffs and left on the road to die.
Do I still have your attention? Good. This is where you need it.
A former FBI agent named Don Clark made this public statement about Carnaby:
Before it's shown why this statement is a flat-out, bald-faced, blatant lie, let's see who Don Clark is.
According to Clark's bio that was released when he went to work for Sharp Technology, Clark managed the FBI's investigation of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. He was also in charge of the investigation of Achille Lauro attack in which Leon Klinghoffer was killed. He coordinated and managed the investigation and prosecution of the dragging death of James Byrd, Jr. in Jasper, Texas and he was in charge of the investigation and coordination to locate FBI’s top-10 fugitive and accused “Railcar Killer” Rafael Resendes Ramirez.
Clark was also the special agent in charge of the Houston FBI office, a position he held until he retired in 2000. He's a well-known figure in Houston law enforcement circles.
In other words, Clark's no fool. He at least knows who is who and what is what in Houston.
So, let's recap. Of Roland Carnaby, Clark said on May 2 - two days after Carnaby was murdered - that "I only knew him as Tony. I had no idea what his name may have been or was. The name that was in the newspaper, I had never seen that name before."
On February 16, 2007, Clark was a guest of Roland Carnaby's Houston chapter of the Association of Intelligence Officers. It was a formal dinner also attended by deputy director of the CIA James Pavitt. Roland Carnaby introduced Pavitt and Clark and gave a presentation that evening. Yet we're to believe that a highly-decorated and highly-respected former FBI agent has no recollection of Carnaby's name?
At this point, it's difficult to believe that Clark is telling the truth about not knowing Roland Carnaby's name. Why Clark is lying about his knowledge of Carnaby is beyond our ability to know.
What matters is that a highly-decorated and highly-respected former FBI agent has been caught lying about knowing a man that was shot down like a dog in the street by enraged Houston police.
What matters even more is that the media, the press, the Fourth Estate, has buried this story so far that it's hoped that we short-attention spanned Americans will forget it. This American won't forget it. If this is how the police treat one of their own, how will they treat us when push comes to shove?
A CIA agent is shot down by local police. The national media stops reporting on the story the day after the murder. A well-known former FBI agent lies about knowing him. And he lies big.
Welcome to Soviet America. Or Nazi America. Take your pick.
By the way...Roland Carnaby was buried on Monday, May 5, 2008. There was no reporting of the funeral by any national media.
NEXT UP: Alan Premel and Roland Carnaby
Don Clark's Big Lie About Roland Carnaby
I'll try to make this brief. Being modern Americans, both you and I have short attention spans. That's how stories like the following get memory holed. We don't pay attention.
On April 29, 2008, Roland Carnaby was shot down in the street by the Houston Police Department. The capital crime he committed was running from the cops after a traffic stop.
When stopped the first time, it's claimed that Carnaby produced ID identifying him as a CIA agent. The offficer was told by his superiors that the ID was fake. The officer was also told to find a reason to arrest Carnaby. This brings up question number one: if the ID was fake, why did the cops need to find a reason to arrest him? Impersonating a federal official is already a crime.
At this point Carnaby, a man with a stellar reputation (he was president of the Houston chapter of the Association of Intelligence Officers), drove away from the traffic stop and attempted to call his contacts in the Houston Police Department and the FBI. Having no luck with that, he kept driving while the cops chased him through Houston.
Apparently Carnaby's vehicle was disabled by the police in some manner or another or he just stopped. This point's a little unclear. What is clear is that the police were enraged and attempted to smash the front passenger window after the vehicle stopped. Carnaby was shot in the back while exiting the vehicle and then shot again in the chest by another officer. He was put in handcuffs and left on the road to die.
Do I still have your attention? Good. This is where you need it.
A former FBI agent named Don Clark made this public statement about Carnaby:
"I only knew him as Tony," said Don Clark, FOX 26's security and law enforcement analyst and former FBI agent. "I had no idea what his name may have been or was. The name that was in the newspaper, I had never seen that name before."
Former FBI Agent: I Knew Chase Suspect By Different Name
02 May 2008
Before it's shown why this statement is a flat-out, bald-faced, blatant lie, let's see who Don Clark is.
According to Clark's bio that was released when he went to work for Sharp Technology, Clark managed the FBI's investigation of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. He was also in charge of the investigation of Achille Lauro attack in which Leon Klinghoffer was killed. He coordinated and managed the investigation and prosecution of the dragging death of James Byrd, Jr. in Jasper, Texas and he was in charge of the investigation and coordination to locate FBI’s top-10 fugitive and accused “Railcar Killer” Rafael Resendes Ramirez.
Clark was also the special agent in charge of the Houston FBI office, a position he held until he retired in 2000. He's a well-known figure in Houston law enforcement circles.
In other words, Clark's no fool. He at least knows who is who and what is what in Houston.
So, let's recap. Of Roland Carnaby, Clark said on May 2 - two days after Carnaby was murdered - that "I only knew him as Tony. I had no idea what his name may have been or was. The name that was in the newspaper, I had never seen that name before."
On February 16, 2007, Clark was a guest of Roland Carnaby's Houston chapter of the Association of Intelligence Officers. It was a formal dinner also attended by deputy director of the CIA James Pavitt. Roland Carnaby introduced Pavitt and Clark and gave a presentation that evening. Yet we're to believe that a highly-decorated and highly-respected former FBI agent has no recollection of Carnaby's name?
16 February 2007 - Houston, TX - AFIO Houston Chapter hosts James L. Pavitt, former DDO CIA, and Don K. Clark, Former Special Agent-in-Charge of the Houston Field Office of the FBI at a formal dinner - 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. at the SHERATON SUITES HOTEL, 2400 West Loop South (I-610), Houston, Texas 77027. 713-586-2444. A presentation and introduction will be made by Roland V. Carnaby President of AFIO Houston Chapter, and Dr George Friedman, Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Stratfor RSVP REQUIRED and final registration by February 12, 2007. You may remember their great Inaugural Dinner Meeting! Seating is limited by capacity and security. Kindly Respond in the affirmative ASAP: Provide name, address, email, phone and names of your guests to the Houston address 1302 Waugh Dr. # 520 Houston, Texas 77019 no later than February 12, 2007. Bring an associate, friend, spouse. $50pp payable to AFIO Houston Chapter. For further information visit Houston Chapter Website at: www.afiohouston.com and for directions and future events. No tickets at the door, for security reasons. Please, NO cameras or cell phones allowed at this event.
AFIO Weekly Intelligence Notes
At this point, it's difficult to believe that Clark is telling the truth about not knowing Roland Carnaby's name. Why Clark is lying about his knowledge of Carnaby is beyond our ability to know.
What matters is that a highly-decorated and highly-respected former FBI agent has been caught lying about knowing a man that was shot down like a dog in the street by enraged Houston police.
What matters even more is that the media, the press, the Fourth Estate, has buried this story so far that it's hoped that we short-attention spanned Americans will forget it. This American won't forget it. If this is how the police treat one of their own, how will they treat us when push comes to shove?
A CIA agent is shot down by local police. The national media stops reporting on the story the day after the murder. A well-known former FBI agent lies about knowing him. And he lies big.
Welcome to Soviet America. Or Nazi America. Take your pick.
By the way...Roland Carnaby was buried on Monday, May 5, 2008. There was no reporting of the funeral by any national media.
NEXT UP: Alan Premel and Roland Carnaby


Comments
I wasn't aware of WTC connections yet.
http://patriotsquestion911.com
I can't help but wonder if it's related somehow to the "suicide" of the Arab who was in charge of a charity in Houston a few days before this. It was ruled a suicide even though both his hand were tied. (????)
I've also sign it mentioned that "Poppy" (GHWB Sr. ) was also a member of this organization AFIO. Surely they knew each other? AWFULLY SUSPICIOUS!
That's where I stopped reading.
All bets are OFF when you pull THAT shit. You are endagering the public at that point and you WILL be taken out!!! Cops don't get paid enough to put up with stupid SOBs that don't have the common sense to respect the badge, the law and the gun.
GIVE RESPECT TO GET RESPECT YOU DUMB BASTARDS!
go to http://www.christopherketcham.com and read about more scum.
Blessings To All
May. 7th, 2008 02:09 am (UTC)
Respect the badge, he earned it with his blood.
"the only crime he committed was running from the cops"
That's where I stopped reading.
All bets are OFF when you pull THAT shit. You are endagering the public at that point and you WILL be taken out!!! Cops don't get paid enough to put up with stupid SOBs that don't have the common sense to respect the badge, the law and the gun.
GIVE RESPECT TO GET RESPECT YOU DUMB BASTARDS!
Typical cop mentality !
By the way, you misspelled endangering. Like I said...typical
Are Road Blocks and mis-information intended to foil investigation into the facts being arranged by FBI in the Carnaby (collaterally killed because cops were confused) case? Poor poor police, so much to do and so little gray matter to do it with. Ya think Don Clark was in on Carnaby's "shoot down" real time?
What has happened to the Justice Department and FBI? Who took them away from us?
How about the father of one of the trench coat dominion mafia in Columbine (http://judicial-inc.biz/columbine_killers.htm), agent, Dwayne Fuselier (http://judicial-inc.biz/Col_Dwayne_Fuselier.htm), who blocked the investigation too, by telling the local sheriff to shove it where the sun don't shine.
How do you spell "G-E-N-E-R-A-L S-T-R-I-K-E"?
The story was about a man who applied to a state law enforcement agency and was rejected. He later filed a discrimination suit under title VII, he did so because the only reason they gave was that his IQ was too high. NO JOKE.
The court dismissed the suit, because as it turns out, it is actually a very common and widely used criteria of law enforcement agencies across the united states. Their logic is that the intelligent applicants are supposedly more likely to become bored with the job...
Was the guy some kind of genius? Nope...the IQ that disqualified the hopeful applicant was a whopping 120.
Turns out, many law enforcement agencies prefer officers that are in the 80 to 110 range. Perhaps they don't want officers who are able to think about what they are being asked to do, because when the law being enforced is unconstitutional, the officer enforcing it is a criminal. Simple criminal.
Which brings us back to Mr. Respect the badge...
"the only crime he committed was running from the cops"
...from mr. anonymous, as in non entity.
It's heartening to see fewer responses similar to the above-noted attempt at something resembling sense. Apparently the suggestion is that we 'civilians' should simply knuckle under and give in when we are chased; after all Mr. Carnaby did...
The comment does indeed seem typical of someone not in possession of what some would refer to as a soul. A knee jerk reaction from one accustomed to getting his/her way. Be advised non entity, many people are getting tired of being pushed around by heavyset cretins and aren't afraid to do something about it, i.e., a love letter straight from the heart.
They've already shown they don't care if we respect them or hate them , believe them or admire them from afar. They have all the money and power the world can offer.
It seems all that's left is the spirit of continuing to do what is right. For all that we have left that is ours is our very souls. And now they are about to try and take these too.
The greator sin would be to sell them out (our souls) by not warning others.
May the good forces give strength to those who are wiser then serpents.
This video was done by Fox and then the video committed "suicide" as soon as the owner of Fox saw it (Rupert Murdock is Jewsh too and is a member of Kosher Nostra!) Oh and look for shills in these comments by Kosher Nostra psychological warfare operators who post Non Sequitor (off subject) jabs to through you off the real argument like the guy who said if you run from cops u get shot! I run from cops before cause the Mexi Mafia bitch I was with's Uncle was a cop and sicked them on me after her gang banger kids had already attacked me and i reported them to cops. Cops in USA sell coke, pimp street hookers and a whole lot more. Look at Cokaine Importation Agency's video http://gnn.tv/videos/1/Crack_The_CIA - cops ain't worth the powder to blow em to hell.
I guess they have escalated to shooting instead of beatings.
does this mean that when 6 or 7 cops are killed it REALLY MEANS that the equivalent of only 2 or 3 normally intelligent people were killed?
Weak? or misdirection? or ?
First, the stories you link to say that the Carnaby was not identified as a CIA agent until *after* the police had him in custody. What apparently got them all worked up was that Carnaby had a concealed weapons permit in his wallet. He was shot because as he exited the vehicle he reached down under the seat before getting out, without putting his hands up. An officer said he feared Carnaby had reached for a weapon.
He also died later at the hospital. Not on the street in cuffs, as you implied.
I point this out simply because the story is sensational enough... it didn't need the inaccuracies or editorializing to make it a scary story!
But, moving along, I think the interesting bit is here in GoogleMaps:
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This shows where the chase started and ended, and the path they took. Google Maps puts the travel time at a *maximum* of 30 minutes. However, the chase lasted for almost an hour!
Was this an OJ Simposon-style "chase"?
All in all, you are absolutely correct: This is a really odd story. Unfortunately, all our "facts" come from Fox News sources (right now), which are notoriously wrong much of the time...
I wanna hear what the official inquest says...
- CJ
Arrest anyone breaking the law. that includes politicians, police, judges, or any bastard that takes issue with a lawful citizen's arrest, arrest them too!